Comments on: Easy readers http://chnm2009.thatcamp.org/06/10/easy-readers/ The Humanities And Technology Camp Sat, 04 Jun 2011 13:00:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.12 By: THATCamp » Blog Archive http://chnm2009.thatcamp.org/06/10/easy-readers/#comment-277 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:11:01 +0000 http://thatcamp.org/?p=131#comment-277 […] grasp and retain content. This strikes me as simlar, as well, to the kinds of issues raised by Douglas Knox–using scale and format to retrieve “structured information.” Do the […]

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By: thowe http://chnm2009.thatcamp.org/06/10/easy-readers/#comment-276 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:37:29 +0000 http://thatcamp.org/?p=131#comment-276 I’d also love to learn more about these tools, like processing and prefuse, especially since I am a non-programmer. Like Karin and Douglas, I know what I want to do, but not how! I can figure out, logically, what might work and what kinds of steps would be needed, but the how of using these tools on my own is I fear beyond me. Visualizing text in ways other than word/tag clouds, trees, and so on is also deeply mysterious to me. I know that prefuse can be used to work with text, but I have absolutely no idea how!

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By: Douglas http://chnm2009.thatcamp.org/06/10/easy-readers/#comment-275 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:29:30 +0000 http://thatcamp.org/?p=131#comment-275 I’m pretty much in the same situation as Karin — I know what I want to do, and I know (roughly) how it can be done, but I don’t know how I can actually do it (in particular with respect to data visualization). I’ll definitely take a look at Processing; I’ve also been experimenting with SEASR (seasr.org/), which lets a non-programmer string together pre-made text processing and data visualization modules. I’m still not very good at it though 😉

I really like the idea of learning about these tools and their uses (and how they can be productively hacked) and also developing a community developed resource so we can continue to share our expertise and experimentation.

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By: Karin Dalziel http://chnm2009.thatcamp.org/06/10/easy-readers/#comment-274 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:33:06 +0000 http://thatcamp.org/?p=131#comment-274 I too am a beginning programmer- I know just enough to be painfully aware of what I don’t know. Processing is the next thing I’d like to learn, mostly because I’d like to get a lot more into visualizing data.

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By: Musebrarian http://chnm2009.thatcamp.org/06/10/easy-readers/#comment-273 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:00:19 +0000 http://thatcamp.org/?p=131#comment-273 I’m also interested in learning more about Processing, but also things like Flare flare.prefuse.org/ and the JavaScript Infovis toolkit. thejit.org/

It would be nice to have a discussion about the relative merits of different approaches & languages for this kind of work – especially as it relates to the kinds of humanities materials we are working with.

For the Collection Dashboard, we’re also exploring existing online APIs and services that help with some of this work. My colleague Piotr Adamczyk has built a nice site that explores tools like Yahoo! Pipes, Many Eyes, Google charts and mapping. (museumpipes.wordpress.com).

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By: Peter Jones http://chnm2009.thatcamp.org/06/10/easy-readers/#comment-272 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:21:17 +0000 http://thatcamp.org/?p=131#comment-272 I would definitely be interested in this discussion for several reasons:

1)I’m also in between the “programmer” and neophyte stages. Thus Processing sounds interesting and useful.

2) Almost all scholars will be doing this sort of reading online (just think about Google Books). Easily created tools to make this work better sound like a great investment (I think Zotero broadly fits this definition and look at its success).

3)My next job involves reading many documents online and anything that can make this more efficient and successful using OCR or metadata sounds like a great use of digital humanities tools.

I’m not sure about other’s interests, but this topic certainly looks useful to me.

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By: Sterling Fluharty http://chnm2009.thatcamp.org/06/10/easy-readers/#comment-271 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:28:12 +0000 http://thatcamp.org/?p=131#comment-271 It would be really interesting if this became a guide or resource for digital humanities hacks, especially since Bill Turkel retired his blog.

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By: ghbrett http://chnm2009.thatcamp.org/06/10/easy-readers/#comment-270 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:26:58 +0000 http://thatcamp.org/?p=131#comment-270 While not programming per se, I have had a long term interest in the notion of general purpose tools. How one might use a spreadsheet as a flat file database, or a text file to store boiler plate. I admit that these were more interesting in the mid 1980’s before folks were using these alot, but I believe that there still are ways to think about how to extend or tailor Google Docs, or SurveyMonkey, or WordPress, or Atlassian’s Confluence, or possibly even Twitter. So, I’m interested in learning, discussing, and even collecting ideas about what are the new general purpose tools and how can they better serve the Humanities as well as Research & Education.

— George

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By: Frédéric Clavert http://chnm2009.thatcamp.org/06/10/easy-readers/#comment-269 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:45:35 +0000 http://thatcamp.org/?p=131#comment-269 Hello,

I think your idea is a good one and would like to participate to such a session.

Your post make me think of what could be called “the high cost of entering the digital world” for non digital humanists: the little things to learn to be efficient with digital tools – even “simple” ones like Wordprocessors – are costing too much (in terms of learning time) to the eyes of many humanists and historians and that’s often why they are skeptical about digital humanities.

Frédéric

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